Friendship with Pluto Overtones – is Age Difference a Factor?

In this particular relationship there seems to be two different parallel tracks. One shows classic markers for friendship and why they like to spend time in each others company; and the other illustrates how Pluto can be a force to be reckoned with in synastry. This is a Sagittarius Sun woman who is 21 years older than her Pisces Sun male friend.

First, I will walk through the classic side. These two both have Moon conjoined the Ascendant in Gemini and within about a 10 degree orb. I consider this factor very important to their ability to relate to one another. Gemini Moon is most happy chatting with others and Gemini Ascendant is all about curiosity and is very social. It would be completely natural for these to gravitate towards one another in a social setting and happy talk for hours. Both having Moon in Gemini is great for mutual understanding of what makes the other feel comfortable emotionally.

Another classic aspect is her Sun/Venus is exactly conjoined to his 7th House Cusp. This is another indication of natural partnership and ease of functioning together particularly in a social setting. His Neptune in Sagittarius is conjoined to her Mercury/Saturn in her 7th House; placing more emphasis on this sense of empathy and the 7th House of one-on-one relationships. In other words, we have two people find the other a natural complement on one level.

There is an intra-aspect with Neptune to Mars between these charts. Her Neptune is trine his Mars/Sun and his Neptune is inconjunct her Mars. This brings in a possibility of expectations that may or may not be fulfilled and the question of unmanifested potential clouding the waters. Neptune is very, very good at confusing everything he touches . . . darn him anyway!

With her Sun and Moon part of a T-Square with Pluto at the apex, this is a very Plutonian individual. She is aware of this as is most often the case when Pluto has his footprints all over us. Having Pluto factored into their Moon connection makes this relationship a LOT more intense for both of them. Now, he has a Yod with Sun/Moon and Pluto – Pluto being the focus point of the Yod (inconjunct both Sun and Moon). This creates another common bond and level of understanding as they are both intense Plutonian types.

As is often the case when I start looking at chart synastry, the story unfolds in the process. There is a very good reason these two are drawn to each other. They have strong parallels in their charts (Pluto/Sun/Moon aspects) and the vehicle (Moon/ASC conjoined) to help bring insight to one another. It is very possible this relationship is a gift to these people and from what I’m seeing from an astrological perspective, a boon to both. Transiting Saturn in Virgo is a major player as he is approaching his Saturn Return and Saturn is on her Pluto now. An understanding friend is always welcome in my book! 😀

The Six of Cups has alway represented the best friendship has to offer for me – a shared gift of the best kind.

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8 responses to “Friendship with Pluto Overtones – is Age Difference a Factor?

  1. Thank you for your insightful comments, Neith. I certainly do feel comfortable in his presence and there have been many times we have talked for hours. With all my Sag planets and my Gemini Moon/Ascendant, I’m a sucker for a witty, thoughtful man. :)I can feel that Neptune intra-aspect, though. It’s a very confusing relationship. With feelings as deep as they are, it seems like it should be more than a friendship, and yet, given our age difference and other differences, that doesn’t seem to be in the cards. We keep trying to find the right balance, but, despite all the talking, we often seem to misunderstand each other as well.I’ve been wondering about the Saturn transits you mentioned. I kind of bombard his Saturn, since it’s conjunct my Pluto and therefore square my Sun/Venus-Moon opposition. That seems a significant part, also, in our comings and goings (or rather his goings – he tends to be the one who needs more space). I wonder whether his Saturn return might allow us to resolve this one way or another? Of course, that might be transiting Neptune leading me to indulge in wishful thinking….Thanks again for your thoughtful comments. He definitely has been a gift and a boon to me. I hope I’ve been one to him as well.

  2. I wonder whether his Saturn return might allow us to resolve this one way or another? Saturn Returns have a way of propelling us forward into maturity, willy nilly. If he is already a thoughtful sort, this next couple of years will have a tempering effect on him. You have just had the first pass of three of Saturn over your Pluto. 🙂 So it’s sure to be helpful. Being a strongly Plutonian type myself, i practice detachment from outcomes on a daily basis . . . 🙂 And recommend Donna Cunningham’s book “Healing Pluto Problems” to all who are interested as a source of aid.

  3. Funny you should say that – an increased ability to detach from outcomes is one of the gifts I feel he’s given me, or at least he’s acted as a spur to my development of that quality.

  4. Funny you should say that – an increased ability to detach from outcomes is one of the gifts I feel he’s given me, or at least he’s acted as a spur to my development of that quality.Excellent! The thing that comes to mind when dealing with Pluto is being able to accept all aspects of ones self with as little judgement as possible.

  5. Blogger just ate my comment! And I didn’t follow my own Mercury Rx “post a comment” instructions. But it was short, so I can retype. First, to say this is another great analysis. Well done, Neith.Second, I didn’t mean to put the fear of god in everyone with my grammar lecture. It’s OK to say that her Venus/Sun is conjunct his Descendant. The verb applies mostly to transits. Lastly, I wanted to say what a great choice the Six of Cups was for this post.Now, let’s try this again…

  6. Second, I didn’t mean to put the fear of god in everyone with my grammar lecture. It’s OK to say that her Venus/Sun is conjunct his Descendant. The verb applies mostly to transits. he, he, he! I was wondering if you’d catch that . . . 🙂

  7. Friendships with wide age differences are a fact of life with me, but it’s always interesting to see how it plays out in other people’s experience. :o) All this is prodding me to examine each friendship in my world and try to figure out what might be drawing us together.

  8. Friendships with wide age differences are a fact of life with me, but it’s always interesting to see how it plays out in other people’s experience. :o) All this is prodding me to examine each friendship in my world and try to figure out what might be drawing us together.Best way I can think of to learn synastry in action is to look at the charts of our friends and lovers in relation to our own. Of course, gathering the critical birth data can be a challenge at times . . . 🙂

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