An Opinion on Pluto and Internet Porn

Over on Elsa Elsa, there was an intense discussion on the abuse of pornography. It seems to me pornography has been around for centuries along with prostitution but the rise of internet porn is a recent phenomenon. What I’m considering is the relationship between Pluto in Scorpio, AIDS and the need for safe sex. The sixties and seventies were the time I was in my late teens and twenties and the sexual revolution was in full swing. We were more concerned about preventing pregnancy than STD’s. With the advent of AIDS and other serious STD’s, that all changed.

The children who became sexually active from the 1980’s on have a very different approach than we did. It makes sense those young people would choose what they saw as safe sex without understanding how ultimately destructive it is to not connect the sex act with a loving person in a loving environment. It’s pretty hard to feel emotional involvement with a picture on a screen, even with sound effects – and if there IS emotional involvement that’s even scarier in my opinion. Being part of a loving relationship is challenging in and of it’s self and it may have been simpler for many young men (and women too) to retreat to readily available pornography. Hey, those images don’t yell back and ask difficult questions.

Fear plays a very important role here. Fear of contracting a life-threatening disease, fear of intimacy and fear of failing to perform up to the impossible standards set in those porn films. Pluto in Scorpio laid all these issues on the table and it may be up those born with Pluto in Scorpio to set this to rights and teach our vulnerable ones how to relate to each other and their sexuality in healthy ways once more. We really need to wean ourselves as a culture from porn, particularly because it objectifies those men, women and children who appear in the films. I’m not going to even get started on how much I despise those who prey on children . . . castration comes to mind as a solution.

Pluto has just moved into Capricorn and accountability is going to become fashionable and I’m hoping we will begin to see some practical changes in the way pornography is dealt with. A key component is teaching our children the importance of trust, love and acceptance as part of the sexual experience. We really need good sex education in our schools and homes and we need to learn how to relate to ourselves and our partners as human beings. Perfection is an illusion best left to the Creator . . . Pluto can teach us about love and acceptance as a whole person with the attendant flaws.


The is the Judgement card from the Celestial tarot deck and Pluto is the planet on this card. This seems appropriate for this discussion because learning good judgement is definitely an issue here . . .

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16 responses to “An Opinion on Pluto and Internet Porn

  1. In the mid-90s, when I first started working in Internet marketing, there was a saying that people would pay for only two things on the Internet. One was porn, and the other was astrology. The reasons are similar. Both raise intense curiosity, but people are either embarrassed or ashamed to admit it. Being able to do it in secret on your computer is a big draw. Astrology is coming out of the closet — and you see how much free content there is now — but porn still has a stigma.Part of it is our puritan roots, no doubt about it. European countries just don’t have the same attitude about it that we do. Sex is sex, and so what? People do all sorts of kinky things in the privacy of their own homes. They swap wives, engage in group sex, do it with animals, swing from the chandeliers, you name it. Some variation of this has been going on for centuries. Why are we shocked? The more you sweep something under the rug and make it shameful, the more it’s going to become the object of an obsession. Deal with it, confront it, and the obsession will disappear. That said, I do believe we are wired with sex and fear on the same circuit. Fear and the need to procreate are both primordial survival mechanisms. How much more Plutonian can you get?So, Pluto in Cap? Expect to see new trends in bondage.

  2. What is also missing is the cultural aspect–so many people, up until the 70s/80s had the pretense that they had a certain brand of ‘morality’ or ‘religion’ that could ONLY be defended through behaviour that was accepted as healthy. Neith, you mention that: “It makes sense those young people would choose what they saw as safe sex without understanding how ultimately destructive it is to not connect the sex act with a loving person in a loving environment.” And in my small mind I can’t help but say “evolution of the social construct that is called family.”I mean, we don’t have the same sentimental concept of family anymore…more means of communication…or even language. Ugh. Age of Aquarius: are we in it, or are we in it?

  3. So, Pluto in Cap? Expect to see new trends in bondage.*ROFL* Good one, Pat!”It makes sense those young people would choose what they saw as safe sex without understanding how ultimately destructive it is to not connect the sex act with a loving person in a loving environment.”What a neat way of putting it, Neith. I’ve found that to be true but hadn’t thought to frame it in that manner.

  4. The more you sweep something under the rug and make it shameful, the more it’s going to become the object of an obsession. Deal with it, confront it, and the obsession will disappear. That said, I do believe we are wired with sex and fear on the same circuit. Fear and the need to procreate are both primordial survival mechanisms. How much more Plutonian can you get?Exactly, Pat! Pluto in Sagittarius seemed to exacerbate all the puritan religious junk surrounding sex and porn. And what promotes an obsession more than denial? My concern has more to do with the isolation factor of solitary sexual expression. We live in a world where in many ways it’s easier to avoid intimacy and emotional sharing than not. There is a reason Saturn is exalted in Libra . . . :-)heh, some of the worst abuse of porn is often among the christian contingent – especially child porn.

  5. And in my small mind I can’t help but say “evolution of the social construct that is called family.”I mean, we don’t have the same sentimental concept of family anymore…With my Moon/Neptune in the 11th House, I’ve always had a loose concept of what constitutes a family. My extended “family” is constantly changing and growing and every time I do a chart reading for someone roughly in age group my children would be, I feel an emotional connection. Yeah, this is one reason I don’t’ do in person or phone readings. . . that Moon/Neptune is soooo susceptible! I end up worrying about them and concerned about their well-being.

  6. What a neat way of putting it, Neith. I’ve found that to be true but hadn’t thought to frame it in that manner.Thanks for the confirmation Joe! I trust your instincts when it comes to the best way to express something. Scorpio/Gemini rules when it comes to finding exactly the right words with the greatest brevity!! :-D~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BTW?! I felt some trepidation after I posted this. It’s a little more Scorpio than usual for this Libra . . . so I REALLY appreciate the great feedback!!

  7. heh, some of the worst abuse of porn is often among the christian contingent – especially child porn.Yep. One of the reasons people look at porn is that they have primal urges that are scary and confusing. If you get turned on by little girls or little boys, you immediately think of yourself as a deviant. Rather than confronting this urge directly, many people resort to porn (and worse, in many cases). I wish we could all just admit that we often have thoughts, urges, fantasies, etc., that are less than wholesome, and this is normal. If we try to pretend they don’t exist, they control us instead of the other way around. Fundamentalist ministers are ripe for this, because they are so rigid about what it means to be pure, good, godly, etc. Pluto is the great equalizer.While we’re on the subject, I think it’s also important to make the distinction between porn and erotica. When asked the difference, a friend once quipped, “the lighting.” Seriously, though, I see a lot of people objecting to anything that has to do with sex, and this isn’t healthy, either.

  8. I felt some trepidation after I posted this. It’s a little more Scorpio than usual for this Libra . . .Thank you for taking the risk anyway Neith. I first read this a couple of hours ago and appreciate the post and the comments. My sense is that the attraction to porn is also about power and control as well as s*ex. The viewer would seem to have total control over the experience (where? when? blonde? brunette? etc etc) without having to interact with another person who might challenge it …..Safe. Apparently. Pluto in Scorpio indeed. But porn viewing can – apparently – so easily become an addiction and a compulsion – the ultimate in powerless behaviour.

  9. I wish we could all just admit that we often have thoughts, urges, fantasies, etc., that are less than wholesome, and this is normal. If we try to pretend they don’t exist, they control us instead of the other way around. Fundamentalist ministers are ripe for this, because they are so rigid about what it means to be pure, good, godly, etc. Pluto is the great equalizer.No kidding. I feel that’s why those of who understand this in our bones thanks to Pluto’s transits or natal aspects, or lots of Scorpio, need to keep this message out there. It takes time for a collective to mature and with Pluto moving into the collective signs, we may start to see some progress on this front. As the fervent religiosity of the Pluto in Sagittarius years starts to die down, that will help too. I hope . . . 🙂

  10. While we’re on the subject, I think it’s also important to make the distinction between porn and erotica. When asked the difference, a friend once quipped, “the lighting.” LOL!Seriously, though, I see a lot of people objecting to anything that has to do with sex, and this isn’t healthy, either.No it’s not. Finding a balance here is tricky, especially in this country with it’s very diverse population. The Scandinavian countries with their very sensible attitudes towards health and sexuality have small homogeneous populations. Here we run the gamut from the wonderful openness you found in San Francisco to the die hard christian conservatives in the bible belt & the south.

  11. Thank you for taking the risk anyway Neith. I first read this a couple of hours ago and appreciate the post and the comments. My sense is that the attraction to porn is also about power and control as well as s*ex. The viewer would seem to have total control over the experience (where? when? blonde? brunette? etc etc) without having to interact with another person who might challenge it …..Safe. Apparently. Pluto in Scorpio indeed. But porn viewing can – apparently – so easily become an addiction and a compulsion – the ultimate in powerless behaviour.Thank you for your support, mm! You have an excellent point about power & control too. Attempting to control every facet of behavior is often a person’s first response to Pluto’s touch. Only thing is in the final analysis, that NEVER works with Pluto. It is learning detachment and calm neutrality and acceptance that win the day . . .

  12. Interesting post, neith. I read elsa elsa’s post the other day too and have to admit porn makes me extremely uneasy too. There is no connection in porn. It’s an intensely individual act but it just leaves those who indulge in it feeling empty afterwards. And then it all escalates as they try to regain the feeling and it just brings on satiation and ennui and disconnect. shakes head. my motto is “No sex without love, and no love without honor.” I found an interesting website that I thought you guys might be interested in. I’m going to try to do this:http://www.earthhour.org/Lights out for an hour! It would be very cool to see what it looks like from space.

  13. Interesting post, neith. I read elsa elsa’s post the other day too and have to admit porn makes me extremely uneasy too. There is no connection in porn. It’s an intensely individual act but it just leaves those who indulge in it feeling empty afterwards. And then it all escalates as they try to regain the feeling and it just brings on satiation and ennui and disconnect. shakes head. my motto is “No sex without love, and no love without honor.” {{{Casey!!}}} I was just thinking about you and wondering when you would drop by . . . :-)I couldn’t agree more with your motto and comment on porn . . . it’s in the end an empty experience. Am i wrong in thinking men are far & away the audience for porn? Erotica seems more of a female thing where the imagination is engaged and they share this with their partners.Lights out for an hour! It would be very cool to see what it looks like from space.Now this is a neat idea! Much more effective if you live in one of the big cities though. Our rural house is pretty dark at night anyway . . . 🙂

  14. Am i wrong in thinking men are far & away the audience for porn? Erotica seems more of a female thing where the imagination is engagedI think you’re onto something. Porn is usually visual and explicit, whereas erotica tends to be written and subtly evocative.Like anything, a case can be made pro and con. We humans tend to bring out the best and the worst in anything. Porn can be helpful and it can be destructive. It’s all in how it’s used.It’s been a while since I read The Alphabet Versus the Goddess so I can’t remember if the author addresses porn in his treatise on right brain/the image vs left brain/the word. However, I know enough by now to see that, yes, men are the primary consumers of porn (online or otherwise), but women are fast gaining on them.

  15. It’s been a while since I read The Alphabet Versus the Goddess so I can’t remember if the author addresses porn in his treatise on right brain/the image vs left brain/the word. However, I know enough by now to see that, yes, men are the primary consumers of porn (online or otherwise), but women are fast gaining on them.All this info has me thinking so much I’m going to do another post in this general area . . . Thanks!! 😀

  16. pat: It’s funny, I am friends with a French girl and we went to the Halloween parade together. She was surprised and disgusted at the slutty barmaid/fireman/nurse/vampire costumes and had previously told me she was surprised and grossed out about the extent to the girls on her team talked about sex. I wondered if this meant that the French or maybe she are more Puritan than I originally thought. I had talked to another French girl today that said it is the sluttiness that disgusted her, the fact that it was so crazily on display and somehow slutty behavior is more elegant/accepted/less of a big deal and therefore less exaggerated in France. I wonder if it’s our Puritan conditioning that makes us act out in such a way. With my, heh, Uranus I kind of love the dirty, edgy sexual liberty so hard fought for and thought of as commonplace in my generation. It’s not as much casual sex as the imagination of freedom, the lack of bonds.. (hard to describe it) but now high-waisted pants are coming into fashion and everything’s going to change, sigh.

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